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Nelson, Inhofe Complain AF Not Following Congressional Direction on RD-180

Nelson, Inhofe Complain AF Not Following Congressional Direction on RD-180

Senators Bill Nelson (D-FL) and James Inhofe (R-OK) wrote to Secretary of Defense Ash Carter last week to complain that DOD is not following congressional direction to expeditiously develop a U.S. propulsion system to replace Russia’s RD-180.

The letter is dated March 10 and briefly states that congressional direction in the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is quite clear that DOD is to develop a new rocket propulsion system by 2019 and authorized $220 million in FY2015 to that end, and the FY2015 appropriations act includes that $220 million.  Written in the first person (it is not clear whether it is Inhofe or Nelson — both signed it), the letter says “my observations to date leave me skeptical that DoD or the U.S. Air Force are following Congressional intent.”

Both Senators are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC).

The letter says that the direction in the NDAA is consistent with last year’s Air Force-chartered RD-180 Availability Risk Mitigation Study, which was chaired by Maj. Gen. Howard “Mitch” Mitchell (Ret.).   Mitchell is scheduled to be one of the witnesses at this afternoon’s hearing across the Hill before the House Armed Services Committee on “Assuring Assured Access to Space.”   Air Force Space Command Commander Gen. John Hyten is also scheduled to testify, along with DOD and Air Force acquisition officials and representatives of SpaceX and United Launch Alliance.

What's Happening in Space Policy March 16-20, 2015

What's Happening in Space Policy March 16-20, 2015

Here is our list of space policy related events coming up during the week of March 16-20, 2015 and any insight we can offer about them.  The House and Senate are in session.

During the Week

It’s another busy week with two major conferences, lots of congressional hearings, a NAC subcommittee meeting and more.  

It is tough to choose what to highlight because it’s all really good stuff, but to pick just one, the House Armed Services Committee’s subcommittee hearing on Tuesday should be especially interesting.  The title is “Assuring Assured Access to Space” and witnesses include SpaceX’s Gwynne Shotwell and United Launch Alliance’s (ULA’s) Tory Bruno along with two defense department acquisition officials, commander of Air Force Space Command Gen. Hyten, and retired Maj. Gen. Mitch Mitchell who led a study of RD-180 alternatives last year.  Topics are expected to include certifying new entrants like SpaceX to launch EELV-class national security satellites currently launched exclusively by ULA and the need (or not) for a new American-made rocket engine to replace Russia’s RD-180 used for ULA’s Atlas 5.  SpaceX’s position is that its Merlin engines for the Falcon rockets already are an American alternative so why is another one needed.  ULA, meanwhile, announced last fall that it is partnering with Blue Origin on the BE-4 engine as an American alternative.   Everything seemed on a fast track last fall with Congress insisting on no more RD-180s after 2019 (though there are exceptions),but this year’s testimony by Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James and ULA’s most recent statements seem to be putting the brakes on.  Whether that’s a dose of reality or slow-rolling the inevitable is unclear at the moment — perhaps the hearing will shed some light.

Monday-Friday, March 16-20

Monday-Thursday, March 16-19

  • Satellite 2015, Walter E. Washington Convention Center, Washington, DC

Tuesday, March 17

Tuesday-Wednesday, March 17-18

Wednesday, March 18

Thursday, March 19

Unexpected Drama Accompanies Safe Landing of Three ISS Crew

Unexpected Drama Accompanies Safe Landing of Three ISS Crew

Three International Space Station (ISS) crew members returned safely to Earth tonight after an unexpected communications dropout during the deorbit burn added a bit of drama to their landing.

NASA astronaut Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Russian cosmonauts Alexander Samokutyaev and Elena Serova landed in the steppes of Kazakhstan around 10:07 pm ET.  The exact landing time of their Soyuz TMA-14M was not confirmed at press time.  Poor visibility at the landing site due to fog and low clouds prevented visual confirmation of the landing by TV viewers.  Tense moments passed before the screen at Russia’s mission control finally displayed the comforting words — _¥_Á_¢_ _Ù___Á__Ó___– the spacecraft landed.

The reason for the communications dropout one-and-a-half minutes into a four-minute-41-second deorbit burn is unexplained for now.   CBS News space reporter Bill Harwood tweeted (@cbs_spacenews): “TMA14M: Comm dropouts during Soyuz entries are not unusual, but they usually don’t happen so early or last so long.”

Telemetry received at a  ground station in Egypt confirmed that the Soyuz modules separately correctly, but it was not until Soyuz commander Samokutyaev was finally heard saying that everything was fine onboard that a sigh of relief could be uttered.

Though it happened decades ago, veteran space analysts still remember the 1971 Soyuz 11 flight where communications were lost during reentry and many assumed it was a radio failure, but in fact the three Soviet cosmonauts had perished during reentry.   Recovery forces opened the Soyuz hatch expecting to find Georgy Dobrovolskiy, Vladislav Volkov and Viktor Patsayev eagerly awaiting them, but instead found them dead.  They had asphyxiated when a valve between their descent module and the orbital module — which separate during reentry — malfunctioned, allowing the spacecraft atmosphere to vent into space.  The three were not wearing spacesuits, a practice the Soviets had discontinued because they had confidence in their systems and the small interior of the Soyuz was difficult for three spacesuited crew members.  Following this tragedy, the Soviets returned to the practice of requiring spacesuits during launch and reentry, which limited them to two-person crews until a slightly more commodious version of Soyuz, Soyuz T, was introduced in 1980.  Soyuz 11 was the first spacecraft to dock successfully with a space

station, Salyut 1.  The three men were in space for 24 days, a record at

that time.

Fortunately, tonight’s anomaly, whatever it was, did not have any effect on the crew’s safety.  The three ISS crew members were extracted from their Soyuz spacecraft by Russian recovery forces and soon sat smiling and waving in special chairs on the frozen steppes awaiting medical checkups.  The two Russians were expected to return to Star City, outside of Moscow, while Wilmore boarded an airplane back to Johnson Space Center, TX.  The three spent 167 days in space on this mission.

From left to right, Soyuz TMA-14M crew members Elena Serova, Alexander Samokutyaev, and Barry “Butch” Wilmore, after landing in Kazakhstan,

March 11, 2015 ET.  Photo credit:  NASA TV.

 

 

HASC to Focus on Assuring Assured Access to Space

HASC to Focus on Assuring Assured Access to Space

The House Armed Services Committee (HASC) will hold a hearing next week on “Assuring Assured Access to Space” with industry and government witnesses.   Building an American alternative to Russia’s RD-180 rocket engine and certifying “new entrants” like SpaceX likely will be the key topics.

The committee’s official announcement today does not list the industry witnesses, saying only that the panel is “TBA” — to be announced.  Space News ran a story this afternoon stating that SpaceX founder and chief designer Elon Musk and United Launch Alliance (ULA) President Tory Bruno would testify, but HASC would not confirm that to SpacePolicyOnline.com and Space News reporter Mike Gruss later tweeted (@Gruss_SN) that “Musk has only been invited to testily.  Not yet confirmed.”

If the two did appear together, it undoubtedly would be a lively exchange.  Musk and Bruno’s predecessor, Michael Gass, sat next to each other as witnesses at a Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee hearing just about exactly a year ago.  The hearing took place just after Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula and the U.S.-Russian relationship began its downward spiral.  Musk used the opportunity to highlight U.S. dependence on Russia to supply RD-180 engines for ULA’s Atlas V rocket, one of the two U.S. launch vehicles used to launch most national security satellites.  He agreed with U.S. policy that two independent launch systems are needed in order to assure U.S. access to space — today they are ULA’s Atlas V and Delta IV — but that his Falcon rocket should replace Atlas as the second since it is not dependent on foreign sources.  Thus began a year of hearings and congressional action aimed at reducing or eliminating U.S. dependence on Russia for space launch.

Government witnesses at the March 17  hearing will represent the DOD and Air Force acquisition offices, Air Force Space Command, and the Aerospace Corporation.  A committee spokesman said early this evening that they hope to have the industry panel nailed down very soon.

The hearing is at 3:30 pm ET on March 17, 2015 in 2118 Rayburn House Office Building. 

China Plans New Space Laboratory in 2016

China Plans New Space Laboratory in 2016

China plans to launch a second space laboratory in 2016 that will be serviced by a robotic cargo spacecraft.  The new laboratory module reportedly will be launched with a Long March 5 rocket and the cargo ship with a Long March 7.  Neither of those rockets has made its debut yet.

China launched the Tiangong-1 space laboratory, or space station, in 2011.  Three spacecraft docked with the module:  Shenzhou 8, a robotic spacecraft that tested automated rendezvous and docking, in 2011; Shenzhou 9 in 2012, carrying a three-person crew including China’s first female astronaut (“taikonaut”); and Shenzhou 10 in 2013 with another three-person crew (also two men and one woman).

China’s official Xinhua news service today quoted Zhou Jianping, chief
engineer of China’s human spaceflight program, as updating plans for
China’s next attempts at Earth orbit human spaceflight.  A new module, Tiangong-2, will be launched in 2016 and a robotic Tianzhou-1 spacecraft will deliver propellant, supplies, research facilities and repair equipment.  How many crews will occupy Tiangong-2 over what period of time was not revealed.  Zhou said only that selection of the astronauts was “progressing in an orderly manner.”

Xinhua said Tiangong-2 will be launched with a Long March 5 rocket and the Tianzhou-1 supply ship with a Long March 7.  China said for years that the Long March 5, its largest rocket to date, would make its debut in 2014 from the new Wenchang Space Launch Center on Hainan Island, but that has not happened yet.  Long March 5 will be able to launch 25 tons into low Earth orbit, slightly more than a U.S. Delta IV (22 tons).

Long March 5, 6, and 7 are a new family of rockets being developed to use liquid oxygen/kerosene propellants, more environmentally friendly than the current generation of Long March launch vehicles.  Long March 5 is the largest, Long March 6 the smallest, and Long March 7 for mid-sized payloads.  The U.S. Department of Defense’s most recent annual report on China’s military and security developments, generated in April 2014, anticipated the first Long March 7 launch by the end of 2014, and that did not occur.  It said the first Long March 5 launch would be “no sooner than 2015” because of “recent manufacturing difficulties.”

Tiangong-1 and -2 are steps toward a 60-ton space station the China currently says it will launch in 2022.   It reportedly will be composed of three 20-ton modules.

What's Happening in Space Policy March 9-13, 2015

What's Happening in Space Policy March 9-13, 2015

Here is our list of space policy related events for the week of March 9-13, 2015 and any insight we can offer about them.  The Senate is in session this week; the House is in recess.

During the Week

The IEEE Aerospace Conference actually began yesterday in Big Sky, Montana; it runs through March 14.   The conference website says it is being held in “a stimulating and thought provoking environment.”  Indeed!  

Greenbelt, MD may not compare with Big Sky, MT in terms of breathtaking scenery, but the American Astronautical Society’s (AAS’s) Goddard Memorial Symposium at the Greenbelt Marriott is undoubtedly of much more interest to the space policy community.   NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden will keynote the AAS meeting on Wednesday morning at 9:15 am ET, followed by a panel of top level NASA Headquarters officials including Science Mission Directorate Associate Administrator (AA) John Grunsfeld and newly appointed Space Technology Mission Directorate AA Steve Jurczyk, formerly director of NASA’s Langley Research Center.  The two-day AAS meeting ends on Thursday afternoon with a panel including your intrepid SpacePolicyOnline.com editor along with Jeff Foust from Space News and Frank Morring from Aviation Week and Space Technology.

The congressional calendar is less crowded this week since the House is in recess. but Bolden will appear before the Space, Science and Competitiveness Subcommittee of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee on Thursday at 9:30 am ET.  Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was politely inquisitive at his first space hearing two weeks ago, which included no government witnesses.  It will be interesting to see how he and Bolden get along since the NASA Administrator represents President Obama, a man with whom Cruz has serious disagreements on other issues.  Cruz sounded liked a huge space enthusiast at the earlier hearing, with views strongly aligned with key Senators on both sides of the aisle who crafted the 2010 NASA Authorization Act and have appropriated funds since then to execute it.  That suggests that Cruz and Bolden will disagree on the amount of funding requested for SLS and Orion at least — NASA’s request once again is less than Congress wants as everyone knows.

Speaking of SLS, Orbital ATK will have a 2-minute static test fire of an SLS booster on Wednesday.  NASA TV will cover it live at 11:00 am ET (9:00 am local time in Utah).   Two pre-launch briefings (on Tuesday and Wednesday) for the Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) mission (scheduled for launch on Thursday) and the homecoming (on Wednesday) of three International Space Station crew members also are on tap this week.

All the events we know about as of Sunday afternoon are listed below.

Saturday-Saturday, March 7-14

Tuesday, March 10

Tuesday-Thursday, March 10-12 (March 10 is an evening reception only)

Wednesday, March 11

Thursday, March 12

Bolden Reassures Appropriators on Russia; Culberson Wants Interstellar Propulsion

Bolden Reassures Appropriators on Russia; Culberson Wants Interstellar Propulsion

At a House hearing today (March 4), NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden was asked about contingency plans if Russia stops launching U.S. astronauts to the International Space Station (ISS).  He underscored again and again the need for Congress to fully fund the commercial crew program.

The hearing before the Commerce-Justice-Science (CJS) subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee covered familiar ground and produced few surprises.  Subcommittee chairman John Culberson (R-TX), an unabashed NASA supporter who just became chairman following the retirement of Frank Wolf, started the hearing by asserting that Congress will not be able to fund President Obama’s overall budget request for the nation “because it assumes a lot of tax increases that certainly aren’t going to happen,” but that the subcommittee will do all it can to support NASA.  NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden defended the President’s request for his agency.

Perhaps the most interesting exchanges concerned the future of the ISS and whatever will come thereafter.  One set of issues involves U.S. dependence on Russia for launching astronauts to the ISS today, another concerns recent Russian statements that it will support ISS through 2024 and then detach its modules to form an autonomous space station, and a third is U.S. plans for what comes after ISS.

Bolden was asked what contingency plans NASA has if Russia decides not to launch U.S. astronauts to ISS because of the current geopolitical situation.  He stressed that the only plan is to fully fund the President’s $1.244 billion request for the commercial crew program.  He assured the subcommittee that he is confident Boeing and SpaceX will meet their milestones and provide operational systems by the 2017 target date.

Pressed on the point of contingency plans, Bolden reiterated that relationships between NASA and Roscosmos remain strong and Russia needs NASA to operate the ISS, but if the Russians decided they no longer were interested in space exploration, the ISS can be evacuated in an orderly manner:  “You are forcing me into this answer, and I like to give you real answers … but if the nations of the world decided that human exploration is done, we have the capability to bring all six crewmembers home. … I don’t anticipate that that day is going to come.”  He continued that he is “not worried about getting people to the space station as long as the Congress funds the President’s budget at $1.2 billion in 2016 because we will have an American capability” to do that.

Culberson continue to bore in on NASA’s contingency planning, but Rep. Mike Honda (D-CA) intervened saying that Congress must “own” the current situation because it did not provide adequate funding.  As Bolden pointed out once more, if Congress had done so, commercial crew would be ready this year rather than 2017.  Culberson shot back that if the Constellation program had not been canceled, “we would have been ready to fly within 12 months.” Bolden retorted “That is not correct…whoever told you that, that is not correct.”

Russian officials announced last week that Russia will remain in the ISS partnership through 2024, but then will detach its modules to form its own space station.   The announcement was made on February 24 by the Roscosmos Science and Technology Council, chaired by Yuri Koptev, who once headed the predecessor to Roscosmos and was integral in working with then NASA Administrator Dan Goldin as Russia joined the ISS program in 1993.  Somewhat lost in U.S. media reports is that the modules they said they will detach have not yet been launched (a multipurpose laboratory module, a docking node, and a scientific power module), so they are not proposing to take away anything that is currently part of the ISS complex.  In any case, Bolden urged caution in evaluating what the Russians said because “what you hear coming out of Russia is not always what they intended to say,” but he is encouraged by the stated intention to remain with ISS through 2024.

As for what LEO facilities will come after ISS, Bolden focused on the need for the private sector to make those decisions.  He said that a NASA request for information produced disappointing results, however, because those who responded just wanted NASA to continue funding LEO infrastructure.  Bolden noted the efforts of Bigelow Aerospace as the type of effort that is required.  Bigelow launched two test modules on Russian rockets several years ago that are still in orbit. Another will be attached to the ISS this year.  (He lightheartedly noted that Robert Bigelow, the millionaire behind Bigelow Aerospace, insists that the modules are “expandable,” not “inflatable” as they often are described.)  Bolden hopes other companies will buy modules from Bigelow or build their own.

There was one surprise, at least.   Culberson closed the hearing with a clarion call for NASA to develop interstellar propulsion, not a topic that typically arises in NASA budget hearings.

At the very end, Culberson brought up the Asteroid Redirect Mission (ARM), for which NASA is developing high power solar electric propulsion to send a robotic spacecraft to an asteroid to nudge it from its native orbit into lunar orbit so it can be visited by astronauts.  Culberson contended today that the “great value” of ARM is the development of new propulsion — but his goal is for travel to other stars.

Explaining what he hopes will be his legacy for the space program, he listed a robust LEO capability, SLS and Orion for human exploration beyond LEO, a robotic program that follows the recommendations of the National Research Council’s Decadal Surveys, and a propulsion system that allows spacecraft to explore exoplanets.

“The fact that we are still flying rocket engines that were designed by Robert Goddard in the 1920’s is just inexcusable. ….  Let us also leave for future generations the development of the first interstellar rocket propulsion system that would carry us to Alpha Centauri and beyond… to go explore those exoplanets that are most like Earth, which appear to be much more common than we ever realized.”

What's Happening in Space Policy March 2-6, 2015

What's Happening in Space Policy March 2-6, 2015

Here is our list of space policy related events for the week of March 2-6, 2015 and any insight we can offer about them.  The House and Senate are in session.

During the Week

A passel of congressional hearings are on tap this week on the FY2016 budget requests for NASA, DOD, the Department of Commerce (including NOAA) and the Department of Transportation (including FAA).   Most congressional hearings are webcast on the respective committee’s website.  The exceptions are hearings held in the Capitol where, unfortunately, the House Appropriations CJS subcommittee holds many of its hearings.   Its hearings this week on the Department of Commerce budget request and on NASA’s budget request are a case in point.   One must be physically present in the tiny room (H-309 Capitol) to hear the discussion.  All the other hearings this week should be webcast, however.

For those already weary of Washington politics or just looking for something uplifting, tomorrow’s (Monday’s) briefing on Dawn’s impending arrival at Ceres should be fun.  The intrepid spacecraft, which already sent back fascinating data about the asteroid Vesta, will arrive at Ceres on March 6.  The briefing is at JPL and will be webcast on JPL’s Ustream channel and NASA TV.  We haven’t seen an announcement about coverage on March 6 itself, but will post whatever information comes our way later this week.

Those and other events we know about as of Sunday afternoon are listed below.

Monday, March 2

Tuesday, March 3

Wednesday, March 4

Thursday, March 5

NASA Approves Sunday's Spacewalk-Water in Helmet "Feature" of Spacesuit

NASA Approves Sunday's Spacewalk-Water in Helmet "Feature" of Spacesuit

NASA International Space Station (ISS) program managers decided today that Wednesday’s “water in the helmet” episode is not an impediment to proceeding with another spacewalk on Sunday.   The ISS Mission Management Team (IMMT) gave approval for the spacewalk to proceed this morning.

NASA astronauts Terry Virts and Barry “Butch” Wilmore are conducting a trio of spacewalks to get docking ports ready to accept commercial crew spacecraft when they begin flying in 2017.   The first two on February 21 and February 25 went fine, but after Virts reentered the airlock on February 25 and it began repressurizing, he noticed water inside his helmet.

Virts was wearing spacesuit 3005 and NASA immediately explained that the same suit had a similar problem after a December 2013 spacewalk.  NASA is very sensitive to water incursion after a very serious incident in July 2013 when ESA astronaut Luca Parmitano’s helmet filled with water during a spacewalk while he was still outside the ISS.

This time was entirely different, according to NASA officials.  The lead EVA spacewalk officer, Alex Kanelakos, said on NASA’s Space Station Live program after the IMMT decision that it was only a small amount of water, 15 milliliters (ml), and it has happened seven times previously with this spacesuit.  He explained that a small amount of “carryover water” can develop inside the helmet during repressurization.  NASA considers up to 57 ml to be permissable.  Kanelakos did not say exactly how much water filled Parmitano’s helmet in July 2013, but indicated it was many times more.

Because this has happened with suit 3005 several times, Kanelakos said that although NASA does not “expect” it to happen, it is a “known feature” of that suit.

NASA posted an explanation later in the day saying the suit “has a history of what is called ‘sublimator water carryover’, a small amount of residual water in the sublimator cooling component that can condense once the environment around the suit is repressurized following its exposure to vacuum during a spacewalk….”

Why Virts and his ISS crewmates were surprised and concerned about the water is unclear if it is a known feature and has happened seven times in the past with this suit.

In any case, the spacewalk was given the go-ahead to proceed on Sunday, March 1, beginning at about 7:10 am ET.  NASA TV coverage will begin at 6:00 am ET.  The spacewalk is expected to last 6 hours 45 minutes.

AF Secretary James Not Sure 2019 is Doable for RD-180 Replacement

AF Secretary James Not Sure 2019 is Doable for RD-180 Replacement

Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James added a dose of reality today to projections about when an American-made rocket engine could replace Russia’s RD-180s for the Atlas V rocket.  During testimony, she said that meeting the congressional mandate to have a new engine by 2019 may not be doable.  Her experts tell her it will take 6-8 years to get a new engine and another 1-2 years to integrate it into a launch vehicle.  

James spoke before the Senate Appropriations Committee’s Defense Subcommittee (SAC-D) on the Air Force FY2016 budget request along with Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh III.  The two are scheduled to testify to the House counterpart subcommittee (HAC-D) on Friday. 

The issue really is about developing a new propulsion system, of which an engine is a part, but “engine” is commonly used as shorthand.

The deterioration in U.S.-Russian relationships beginning last year because of
Russia’s action in Ukraine highlighted how dependent
the United States is on Russian technology to launch U.S. national
security satellites.   The United Launch Alliance’s (ULA’s) Atlas V and
Delta IV rockets — referred to as Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicles (EELVs ) — launch almost
all of them, and the Atlas V is powered by Russia’s RD-180 engine.   The issue figured prominently in a number of hearings last year and Air Force
officials, including Gen. William Shelton, then head of Air Force Space
Command, rued the prospect of losing those engines.  Still, Shelton and
others eventually accepted
that the time had come for the United States to develop its own comparable
liquid rocket engine.

The FY2015 National Defense Authorization Act (P.L. 113-291)
and its accompanying explanatory statement
direct DOD to develop a new U.S. propulsion
system by 2019 “using full and open
competition.” The law authorizes $220 million and notes it “is not an
authorization of funds for development of a new launch vehicle.” 
Section 608 of the law prohibits the Secretary of Defense (SecDef) from
“awarding or renewing a contract for the procurement of property or
services” under the EELV program if the contract involves “rocket
engines designed or manufactured in the Russian Federation.”  The only exceptions are the EELV contract awarded to ULA on December 18, 2013 or unless the
SecDef certifies that the offeror can demonstrate that it fully paid for
or entered into a legally binding contract for such engines prior to
February 1, 2014.

The FY2015 Defense Appropriations Act (Division C of
P.L. 113-235) followed suit, appropriating the same $220 million as was authorized “to accelerate
rocket propulsion system development with a target demonstration date of
fiscal year 2019.”  It directs the Air Force, in consultation with
NASA, “to develop an affordable, innovative, and competitive strategy
… that includes an assessment of the potential benefits and challenges
of using public-private partnerships, innovative teaming arrangements,
and small business considerations.”

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) and James engaged in two exchanges about the RD-180 today.  Shelby noted that the President’s FY2016 request is only for $84 million.  “It’s also my understanding that developing an RD-180 replacement engine and the associated launch vehicle and launch pad can cost anywhere from $1 billion to more than $3 billion and take perhaps 7 to 10 years to develop,” Shelby said.  James replied that technical experts have advised her that “It’s 6 to 8 years … for a newly designed engine and then an additional 1 to 2 years on top of that to be able to integrate the engine into the launch vehicle.”  As for cost, “I’ve seen $2 billion,” James said.

James asked that Congress clarify what it wants, because the 2019
deadline is “pretty aggressive” and “I’m
not sure 2019 is doable.”  She also stressed that they want “at least
two” domestic engines “because we want competition of course.”

Shelby also revealed that DOD’s General Counsel “may” interpret the Section 608 language contrary to congressional intent resulting in a “capability gap for certain launches” and eliminating “real competition.”  James explained that the General Counsel is trying to interpret several different provisions of law that may or may not have had the same intent, but said the point she wanted to stress is that “virtually everybody” agrees that the United States should be less reliant on Russia.  The question is how to accomplish that:  “We don’t want to cut off our nose to spite our face.”

The two also discussed certification of “new entrants.” a reference to SpaceX, which has been attempting to obtain certification from the Air Force so it can compete against ULA for these types of national security launches.

ULA manufactures the Atlas V and Delta IV in Decatur, Alabama, Shelby’s home state.  Shelby talked about the virtues of competition, but, without mentioning SpaceX by name, said “some of these so-called companies that are planning to compete, and we’d like for them to compete, they have had several mishaps” compared to ULA.  James replied that every developmental program has mishaps and “I’m quite sure they’re going to get there from here.”

ULA is jointly owned by Lockheed Martin and Boeing.  At yesterday’s hearing before the Space, Science and Competitiveness subcommittee of the Senate Commerce Committee, Boeing’s John Elbon also urged a “thoughtful” approach to the transition from the RD-180 to a U.S. engine and keeping the pipeline of engines open as long as possible rather setting a hard cut-off date.

Meanwhile, ULA announced last fall that it is partnering with Blue Origin to develop the BE-4 rocket engine as an RD-180 replacement.  ULA and Blue Origin said at the time that the project is fully paid for and not in need of government funding.